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False Statements About God

None of these statements can be found in the Bible!


1) God is a Trinity
2) God is three persons
3) God is three
4) God is three separate persons
5) God the son
6) God the Holy Ghost
7) The son of God is eternal
8) The son existed with the Father in eternity
9) The Holy Spirit is a separate person from God
10) Jesus is in the Godhead

All these statements are false and are not found in the Bible. Speak only where the Bible speaks. Believe only what the Bible says and revelation of God’s oneness will come to you!

 

 

More God Facts

More facts on the oneness of God.

1. Jesus Christ is the one and only name we can be saved by and all we do should be done in Jesus name.
2. The name Jesus is far above every other name and everyone in Heaven and earth that is born again of the water and Spirit is called by that name.
3. God is the Word, He made Heaven and earth and came to earth as the man Christ Jesus.
4. God Made himself known in a flesh body and died for us.
5. When you look at Jesus in the face you are looking at Jehovah God the Father. The only way to see God is by looking at Jesus.
6. The name “Jesus” identifies him as being the Everlasting father and the Might God.
7. Call his name Jesus for he is God with us that came as a man.
8. Jesus is the Father. Jesus is the son. Jesus is the Holy Ghost. Father, son Holy Ghost are not names but titles of the one true God Jesus Christ. God is one in number, one person.
9. God has many titles but only one name.
10.Jesus Christ is the true God and eternal life.

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God Facts

Give us your opinion, comment or argument on these factual statements on the oneness of God.

1. God is a spirit and the “Father” is God which makes him a spirit.
2. The “son” is flesh
3. The “Holy Ghost” is a Spirit
4. The Father and the Holy Spirit are one in the same spirit. The Father is God. God is a spirit and he is holy which makes him the Holy Spirit.
5. The son of God is God made flesh, God manifest in the flesh. Jesus is the Father come in the form of a man and he is called “the son of God”.
6. Jesus being the image of God is the only visible form of God. He is not separate from God but is the very substance of God. He is the Jehovah God of the Old Testament.
7. Jesus is the Father, Jesus is the son and Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
8. Jesus is not in the Godhead but the Godhead is in Jesus.
9. There are not three persons of God. There are not two persons of God. Jesus is the only person of God.
10. There are many manifestations of God. A manifestation is not necessarily a person.
11. Father, son and Holy Ghost are three manifestations of God and they are not names.
12. God was not a man (person) until he came in flesh and was born of a woman.
13. Jesus is the name of the Father, son and Holy Ghost. 
14. God is not a trinity. God is one in person, one in number with many manifestations and titles. Jesus is his name.
15. God became the rock that followed the Israelites in the wilderness. God became a burning bush for Moses. God became an angel that wrestled with Jacob. God became a man to redeem us from sin by shedding his blood, the blood of God, Acts 20:28.

 

Jesus is NOT in The Godhead!

Does the Bible say that Jesus is in the Godhead? No!

The advocates of the trinity say that because there are three mentioned in Matthew 28:19 proves there are three persons of God, thus Jesus being one of the three. These three mentioned in Matthew chapter 28 are not separate persons but manifestations. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God is three persons and nowhere in the Bible is the word persons used in reference to God.

Is a person the same as a manifestation? A person is a manifestation but is a spirit a person? The answer is no. A spirit is not a person. The Holy Spirit is not a person. The Trinitarian doctrine teaches that the three persons is a makeup of two spirits and one human. See below.

Father = spirit
Holy Spirit = spirit
Son of God = human

The next verse gives us the correct definition of God. (1) Spirit and (1) body. So does this make God two persons instead of three? No! God is one person even Jesus Christ. The “body” and “Spirit” referenced here are not persons but natures. Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man at the same time. He had two natures, one being that of humanity and the other being that of Spirit. (See on this blog “The dual nature of Christ”)

Eph 4:4
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Does the Bible say that the Godhead is in Jesus? Yes!

Col 1:19
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Col 2:8-10
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

These verses tell us plainly that Jesus possess the FULLNESS of the Godhead. In the body of Jesus was all of the attributes of God. All of God, the completeness of God dwelt in Jesus! The Lord Jesus was not part of God. He was not one of three but was the full manifestation of God himself in flesh. The Bible says that God was manifest in the flesh. He was made known in the flesh. He was revealed in a human body.

1 Tim 3:16-4:1
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

When reading the Gospels you can notice how Jesus spoke. Sometimes he spoke as a subordinate man but other times he spoke as being God himself. When understanding the dual nature of Christ the need to make him more than one is not necessary, nor Biblical. See below.

John 10:30, 33
30 I and my Father are one
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

In the previous verse we see that the Jews clearly understood the claim of Jesus. Jesus’ claim was that he was Jehovah God! The dual nature represented here is one that is the “Father”, “God” or “Spirit”.

John 14:28
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

In the previous verse you can see that Jesus spoke as one that was a subordinate. The dual nature of Christ is here represented by the “flesh”, “man” or “son”

See below that Jesus claims full Lordship, being the Allmighty God. Not one of three but the FULLNESS of God dwelling in him.

Rev 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Let us go back to Colossians a bit and see how Paul describes Jesus as God the creator.

Col 1:15-18
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

What did Paul say here?

  1. Jesus created all things
  2. Jesus is before all things
  3. All things consist because of Jesus
  4. Jesus is the beginning

There was no reference to a trinity but Jesus only. These attributes belong to Jesus, for in him dwells all the fullness of God.

In the following verses we can see that Jesus is described to Timothy as God himself in flesh.

1 Tim 1:16-17
16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Tim 6:14-16
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The attributes of God are given to Jesus Christ by Paul because he is God made flesh.

  1. King eternal
  2. Immortal
  3. Invisible
  4. the only wise God
  5. the only potentate
  6. King of Kings
  7. Lord of Lords
  8. Who only has immortality

If Jesus is not fully God with all of the fullness of God dwelling in him, than how can be immortal? Immortal means he was not born nor can he die. This is true of Jesus because he is God manifest in flesh.

How can Jesus be invisible? He was seen of all those while here on earth. He is invisible because it is referring to one part of his dual nature, his Spirit nature. God as Spirit was made into a man, manifest in the flesh.

How many wise Gods do we have, one, two or three? We have only one wise God and his name is Jesus. Jesus is
the one God of the Bible, manifested in the flesh, made known among men!

If Jesus is potentate, he has ALL power! If there are two more, they are powerless.

Jesus being the King of Kings simply says he is the only one in the Godhead. ALL dwells in him!

The Trinity teaches that all three persons are co-equal. Jesus alone has immortality. If there are two others, they are not eternal.

Jesus is NOT in the Godhead. The Godhead is in Jesus!

Do this before you go to bed tonight.

Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Who Was Jesus Praying To? Why Did The Thief on The Cross Not Have to be Baptized?

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In this teaching you will find the simple truth of the oneness of God.

The teaching of the dual nature of Christ is vital in understanding the Godhead. Many are teaching that God is three persons but in this lesson you will learn how to separate the flesh from the Spirit.

Two questions are answered in this lesson. 1. If there is only one in the Godhead, who then was Jesus Praying to? 2. If water baptism is needed for salvation how then was the thief on the cross saved?

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God Has a New Name

What a profound statement I have made, “God has a new name”! Really, it is not my statement, it is God’s statement. How does God have a new name? Take a look at the following verse and see what God says.

Rev 3:12
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

When and how did God get a new name? What is his new name? Throughout the Old Testament God had many names and titles but what about this New Testament era that we live in?

This new name I will prove to you is “Jesus”. Jesus is not a title of God. Jesus is the one name that carries the fullness of God in it. All that God is is found in Jesus. Jesus is not in the Godhead but the Godhead is in Jesus. All the attributes of God are found in that all wonderful name of Jesus!

I am sure you have noticed if you looked up this verse in the Bible that it is written in red ink. Why, because Jesus is speaking. Jesus is the one with a new name. What name did he have before? His primary name in the Old Testament was Jehovah.
 
The next verse is a prophecy of when Jesus would come in flesh to save his people from their sins. The prophets only knew of Jehovah God as being God and he says that there shall be one LORD and his name shall be one. His name shall not be three (father, Son & Holy Spirit) as the Trinitarians teach but one. Many that believe that God is a trinity will say that Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three names of God.

Zech 14:9
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

How can anyone look at the previous verse and say that God has more than one name? We must somehow agree that God is making a bold claim to have one name in these last days. If it doesn’t matter as some will quickly say or say that I am making something out of nothing, than why did God say it? It is his word, not mine.

Acts 4:12
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

What name is Acts 4:12 referring to, Father, Son, Holy Ghost or Jesus? What is the one name that mankind can only be saved by? What is the only name that you can call upon and be saved? Is Acts 4:12 referring to Jesus or Father, Son & Holy Ghost? Is the name referred to in this verse found in Matthew 28:19 (Father, Son & Holy Ghost) or is it found in Acts 4:10 (Jesus)?

The name Jesus is above every name! Father, Son and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. No knee will bow to these titles. No tongue will confess to these titles! If you disagree with me and say that they are names, you must agree and say that the name Jesus is above even these three names / titles!

Jesus is the one name of the one LORD found in Zech 14:9. Look below at verse eleven and you will see that Jesus is the one LORD.

Phil 2:9-11
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Yes, Jesus is the one LORD of the Old Testament that gave himself a new name. When was this name given? It was given at the birth of Jesus!

Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

In the next verse you will notice that a name is referred to but not mentioned. This new name at the time of Isaiah the prophet was yet a secret. God had not revealed this new name to the world. Even the prophet did not know what it was but had a great revelation of what this name would encompass.

Earlier I had written that the Godhead is in Jesus. By this I mean that Jesus is fully God. Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost in one person.

Isa 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

In the previous verse Isaiah brings out the awesomeness of this yet secret name. Isaiah boldly claims that this name of Jesus would reveal him as being The Mighty God and the Everlasting Father. Everyone agrees that Jesus is wonderful but can you agree that he is the Mighty God and the Everlasting Father? How long is Jesus the father? He is the Father, Everlasting. From the beginning and to the end! What kind of God is Jesus? He is the Mighty God!

Col 2:9
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

In the previous verse you can plainly see that all of God is in Jesus Christ. Jesus is not part God. He is not one third God. He is Jehovah God manifest in the flesh! See the verse below.

1 Tim 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

God changed his own name from Jehovah to Jesus. Jesus means, “Jehovah has become salvation”.

If There Was No Book of Matthew, How Would You Be Baptized?

If There Was No Book of Matthew, What Would You Do?

On the subject of water baptism, the Trinitarian immediately runs to the book of Matthew to prove his point on the trinity baptism. I have even heard it said, “I would rather believe Jesus than Peter”. I will deal with that statement a little later.

My dear reader, what would you do if there was no book of Matthew? What scripture would you use to prove your Trinitarian baptism? You know that you couldn’t go to Acts because there in Acts it clearly states that all the converts were baptized in Jesus name.

In my Dake Bible it states that Matthew was actually written in 37 AD. Other Bible historians say that Matthew was written as far out as 70 to 90 AD! Let us use the shorter time period in our discussion. If Matthew was written in 37 AD, what did all the believers use for baptismal proof for those 37 years? If the church was baptizing in the triune formula during those 37 years what were they using to substantiate their position on water baptism?

It would seem to make sense that because the history of the book Acts is not even 37 years old, we would need to go to Acts to find out how the church at that time was baptizing.

From the death and resurrection of Jesus to at least 37 full years passed, no one could turn to Matthew 28:19 and try to prove their Trinitarian baptism! There was no book of Matthew! There was no reference for the “trinity” baptism. If you did not have that passage in Matthew, what honestly would you do? How would you baptize or how would you be baptized?

Can you imagine tens of thousands of new believers and they had no scripture to turn to that they could use for their baptism. What did they do? Who did they listen to? How were they baptized?

Acts 2:37-38
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This passage of scripture is the first mention of water baptism after Jesus’ final words to his disciples before his ascension. As you can see, the first mention of water baptism is by Peter and his command is that water baptism is to be done in the name of “Jesus”. In reading this chapter you will find the 120 people that were in the upper room were baptized in Jesus name. Later that same day 3,000 more people totalling 3,120 new believers were baptized in the name of Jesus, just 50 day after Jesus’ ascension!

When Peter made this command of baptism in Jesus’ name on that day of Pentecost in Acts two, where was Matthew? Was Matthew there? Was Matthew with the other Apostles and the crowd listening to Peter that day? There is no doubt in my mind that Mathew was right by Peter’s side as he preached that everyone should be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins! Is there any record of Mathew standing up and interrupting Peter and saying “No, stop! Baptism should be done in the trinity formula! Water baptism should be done in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit!” My friend, there is no record of anything like that happening. Matthew was there and was in full agreement with Peter and the rest of the Apostles that water baptism should be administered in the name of Jesus.

By studying history on the subject, you will see that the triune baptism did not even exist until over 200 years after the death of Jesus. It was in 325 AD at the Nicene counsel that the trinity baptism was made dogma by the Catholic Church and by Pope Constantine.

The fact about Matthew is that he by every indication was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins along with all of the other Apostles.

If you are going to do it, do it Biblically! Water baptism is not an option. It was commanded by Jesus, and his Apostles throughout the book of Acts also commanded water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.  The Apostle Paul went as far as re-baptizing twelve believers in Acts 19:5. In that passage you will learn that the timing was about 20 years after Jesus’ death and Paul commands that these believers converted under John the Baptist be re-baptized! What would you do, get mad or would you obey and be re-baptized in the name of Jesus Christ? Do you get it? There was no trinity baptism yet, it did not exist. Matthew had not written the book of Matthew and the Bible does NOT give us one person that was baptized in the trinity formula, not one. There is no mention in the Bible of one preacher that baptized using the titles Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

Here is the reference of Paul re-baptizing the twelve believers.

Acts 19:1, 3-5
19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

My dear reader, don’t follow tradition, don’t follow the crowds. Don’t follow the Popes of Rome. Find an Apostolic church and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins!

Three Persons, Three Lords and Three Gods

Three Persons, Three Lords and Three Gods

The reason people continue to insist upon three people in the Godhead is that they do not understand the dual nature of Christ. On this blog you can find one of my studies entitled “the dual nature of Christ”.

It amazes me that people choose to run with the Popes of Rome of whom never had a revelation of God and were never born again. These same preachers and believers believe that God is three persons as the Roman Catholic church has taught for 1,800 years. What most people don’t know, it was a Pope from Rome who changed the water baptism in the 3rd century from “in the name of Jesus Christ” to “in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit”.

It was at the Nicene Counsel of the Roman Catholic church in 325 AD that the teaching of the trinity came about. In the first two centuries after Jesus ascension you cannot find any teachings of Jehovah God as being a trinity. The teaching came about by a backslidden church that began to compromise with the local pagans to bring about religious harmony. The local pagans worshiped multiple Gods by many names. For an example, the mother and child worship (Mary and Jesus) is centuries older than Mary herself. Look in your history and you will see pictures of statues that have been excavated of a woman holding a child. These are much older than 2,000 years! Again the pagans and backslid church of the day both compromised there standards. Of course the pagans were already lost so there compromise did not hurt them any worse. The sad part is that the church was falling further and further from many truths originally held by the early church. This falling away was spoken of by Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:3

2 Thess 2:3
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
KJV

This falling away of the church was yet to happen and as we can see the Apostle Paul had revelation of it. Much of the church forsook the teaching of the “oneness” of God and water baptism “in the name of Jesus Christ” in the 2nd and 3rd centuries. Do a google search “Nicene Counsel 325 AD”. You can read all about it.

Let me show you why this teaching is so wrong…
The Trinity in a nutshell is “God in three separate persons, all three are Lord and all three are God”.
If the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three separate persons than…
The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three separate Lords and
The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three separate Gods!
The end result of this pagan teaching is that God is three separate persons, three separate Lords and three separate Gods. This is complete heresy!

Everything that I have written here is documented history. The Roman Catholic church admits to having changed the teachings of baptism and the Oneness of God. They admit it and it is in their encyclopedias! They know they did it and don’t deny it. The secular encyclopedias also verify that truth.

Rev 18:4
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.KJV

Part of chapters 17 & 18 in Revelation is about the coming Roman Catholic church. God is saying “come out of her my people”. Look in your history and you will find where the church of Rome has murdered an estimated 68 million Christians that believed in the oneness of God and were baptized in Jesus name. Google it, it’s their!

The Pope in 1962 at the Vatican Counsel said “we the Mother church are opening our arms for all of our daughters to return home”. Every person that has been baptized in the triune formula is part of the the Roman catholic church. The Pope claims you. You came out of the Catholic church by means of the Reformation. The only church the Popes will not claim is the church that baptizes in Jesus name and believes in the oneness of God.

The true Apostolic church did not come out of the reformation but existed even before the catholic church. The true Apostolic church was founded by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ!

Come out of the Trinitarian teachings, forsake them and cleave only to the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ and his twelve apostles.



Who is Jesus? Part Two

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In this lesson you will hear teaching on the very important subject of the oneness of God. The Bible is very clear on who God is.

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Who is Jesus? Part One

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In this short teaching you will some very important points of the oneness of God.

You will see plainly in the Bible that Jesus is Jehovah God manifest in the flesh.

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