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Comment on What The Trinity Preachers Will Not Tell You!

2010-03-08T08:18:10Z

Sheila,I entreat you to read other versions of the Bible-the KJV-the NKJV is an easier to read version of the KJV.EVERY word of the Bible is important!Your scriptures cited tweek the Word enough that the truth is not fully evident in them.None of the Gospels say that the Spirit was seen coming INTO Jesus.Then,John 14:31 But [that] the world may know that I love the Father;...Your version omits "that" which is a qualifier as to how the world may know that Jesus loves the Father. Not simply the world may know-or assume-that he loves the Father Not simply that he keeps the Father's commandments.
Ephesians 4:24 "And that ye put on the (new man), which after God is created in righteousness and true (absolute)holiness." Do you see the difference? Yours makes truth holy, the NKJV makes holiness absolute (true).Your Ephesians 5:20 reads different than the Ephesians 5:20 in the NKJV"Giving thanks always unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Please be aware that I stress different versions to read because it is likened to that childrens game "telephone",in which the first message goes from one child to another and,based on each child's understanding, the end statement is different from the first. Tweeked. The versions have a history of how and why they came about. But to make it easier to read the Bible and distort the truth in the meanwhile is reprehensible.Salvation is at stake!(You take the time to fully understand instruction booklets that come with equipment in order to get the full and proper use of the equipment?)

Jesus stayed behind in the temple and "his parents" didnt know he was not with them as they returned home. They didnt understand when they found and questioned him, he said that he must be about "my Father's business" So do you see that in the natural, Jesus would have a "father/parent"(Joseph) and a Father?
Jesus does have ancestry back into the OT, from the line of David. Read the Book of Ruth. So in that way he is the son of man.And we know he is the Son of God by the conception in Mary by the Holy Spirit. So in that way,anything we may encounter that would separate us from God, Jesus (unlike Adam) overcame and was of hisself sinless-having kept all of God's commandments. The OT is full of times of sacrifice of animals for the atonement of sins. There is how Jesus is referred to at times as "the Lamb of God". So Jesus was man-for us-to overcome sin. But then took our sin upon him-someone correct me if I am wrong-he TOOK ON our sin at the time of his baptism by John,which was the baptism of repentence.But that was the beginning, more or less, of the ministry of Jesus. He told John (when John said it should be that Jesus baptize him)Jesus said it was necessary for John to baptize him to fulfill all righteousness.Another step to be accomplished. He died like a man(asphyxiation) on the cross.Jesus didnt offer himself as a sacrifice to God.Jesus was born to intercede on behalf of man to make a way back to God!

Comment on The Jews Do Not believe in the Trinity

2010-03-07T22:32:52Z

The people who defend the trinity still cannot explain even from the standpoint of a gentile the trinitarian characteristics.

Lets make it simple I agree the Jews have never ever heard of a Trinity at the time of Paul. People say, hey they don't believe so they don't know. They do not believer the Messiah has already come lets get that right, but they still have the core belief which is the first and great commandment which has not changed, "Hear O' Israel the Lord our God is One Lord" - Deut 6:4.

Read the verse before it though where Moses say they believe this it will be well with them if they keep the commandment. God has never hid that he is one, then all the sudden the Holy Ghost comes and he reveals, "Oh by the way I have two other attributes that are me, but they are heirs with me, but I'm still one".

Person - defined as a human body, and embodiment, a person human being.

So if that is defined as so put by webster dictionary and others then its simple. God never had a body or a form, so calling him in three persons, or three in one God you are dividing him then trying to reconstruct him when he says in the beginning that he is one. There are Jews who have bought into the trinitarian thinking, how? Because they are human just like you and me and prone to making mistakes.

I have had many talks with trinitarians and all of them now understand dividing God even an inch you give the possibility and probability to Idol Worship. God has never had a form, he had many theophanies but no permanent form until Jesus was Born.

Jesus is the image of the "Invisible GOD". Read Hebrews where it speaks as God calling Jesus GOD, so it seems as two talking but it was GOD making a reference to the beginning of the sonship. How is one a son also unless he's born? One is a son by birth as like Adam he was born of the Earth, the dirt and GOD gave him life. Jesus was Born of divine birth but that body was born of a woman therefore by the body he was a son.

The prophecy the Jews understand that the Messiah or Messianica would be GOD One GOD Jehovah or Yahweh GOD manifest in the form of man. It is simple, GOD put on a body where do I get that?

Col 2:9 "For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily".

As in GOD had a form and it was the body of JESUS CHRIST.

Comment on New Birth and Water Baptism

2010-02-21T18:10:06Z

Baptism is not salvithic. Repentence and faith in the risen Son are. You have yet to address any of the points or questions I have asked. Is that due to your inability, or the invalidity of your claims?

Comment on Dual Nature of Christ

2010-02-20T07:24:51Z

Isaiah 9:6 really explains the fact that Christ had a dual nature.. it says.. "for unto us a child is born(human nature), and unto us a son is given(human nature): and the goverment shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,(divine nature) The everlasting Father,(Divine Nature) The Prince of Peace." Jesus was the Son of God (according to the flesh, in his humanity) and he was the Almighty Father,(in his deity)... So Jesus could say " He that hath seen me, hath seen the Father" John 14:9.. no man can see God at anytime... (in his Divine nature that is) because God is Spirit in his Divinity, and a Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones... So Jesus being the image of the invisible God... Hebrews 1:3... So the son (humanity) was the physical manifestation of the Invisible Father (Spirit).. So therefore subjects such as the prayers in the Garden of Gethsemane (John 17) were not 2 Divine separate person(s) in the Godhead conversing..(if it were then you have to "redefine" One God.. But it was humanity conversing with Deity...

Comment on New Birth and Water Baptism

2010-02-20T00:30:13Z

I haved to laugh,at those remarks,Mike.There is no other Gospel,other than what was preached in the Book of Acts.This Gospel was preached unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from Heaven (1 Peter 1:12).Beware of counterfeit Gospels,thats beening preached today.steve

Comment on Three or One?

2010-02-19T02:20:15Z

Perhaps you are unaware that Trinitarianism does not believe in a multiplicity of gods. You have successfully refuted the notion of polytheism from the text, but you have in no way refuted Trinitarianism.

Why don't you exegete John 17:5, or perhaps Philippians 2:5-8, or John 1:1-2, using the Greek?

Who was it that became a man? In other words, who became incarnate?

Mr. Winter: God is not like you or I.

Comment on New Birth and Water Baptism

2010-02-19T02:14:34Z

I did not suggest nor imply that Peter was preaching a different gospel. What Peter said and what Paul said were identical. But you take one text and eisegete your own meaning into it. Eis does not me "for," but "on behalf of."

The baptism came after they got saved: that is the point. Sounds to me, you enjoy works-righteousness.

Tell me Steve: Did Jesus or His Apostles ever connect damnation with a failure to get baptized? Or did our Lord and His Apostles only associate damnation with those who possess no faith in Christ?

It is funny. Out of all I commented you write three sentences in response? I thought you were the famed apostolic defender.

Comment on Jesus Name and Water Baptism

2010-02-14T05:26:08Z

Being baptized is a momentous occasion in a babies life and should have a true keepsake to mark the event and baptism blanket and handkerchief is a definite need.

Comment on What The Trinity Preachers Will Not Tell You!

2010-02-11T23:02:36Z

As people look at the diety of Jesus they are just looking at the son, the human part of Go, but why doesn't look at like the miracles that Jesus performed, healings that He did, Now Look at the Spiritual side of Jesus-1 Timothy 3:16 tells us that God manifested (robed) himself into the flesh, He was justified in the Spirit, Seen among the angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Received in Glory. Lets look at the part where it says Preached among the Gentiles, "Wait a minute" it says that God preached among the Gentiles, but Jesus was walking on this Earth, But why did the verse say that God preached among the Gentiles because Jesus is Jehovah God in the flesh. But I praise and thank God that I am a one God Apostolic Pentecostal beliver in the name of Jesus

Comment on Jesus Name and Water Baptism

2010-02-11T20:09:08Z

I believe what this man is teaching,is the TRUTH.Its the truth according to Gods word.Gods word is truth.Thank-you so much.I could not have said it any better myself.steve hooper