The Jews Do Not believe in the Trinity
The Jews do not believe in a trinity God! Ask any non Christian Jew, "do you believe God is a trinity". His answer to you will be NO! The Jews have Never believed that God was a trinity. The Prophets of the Old Testament did not believe that God was three persons. The twelve Apostles did not believe that God was a trinity. All the Apostles and Prophets in the Bible were all Jewish and they did not believe in a trinity God!
Sure, if you are trinitarian, you are disagreeing with me. The only part you have to agree with me on is that the Jews of today do NOT believe that God is a trinity. My question for you is, if God is a trinity (three persons) than when did the Jews stop believing that God was three persons and adopt the idea that God is one and only one?
The Jews still believe what they have always believed, including the Apostles and Prophets of old, that God is ONE. God is one in number, one in person.
Deut 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Zech 14:9
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Eph 4:5
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
The Bible does NOT say that God is three persons, not once. Misunderstand it, misconstrue it as you will. The Jews are correct that God is one and not three persons.
Where the Jews and trinitarians are wrong is that the one God of the Bible came in flesh. He did not send a different person to die for us. It was He himself that came in flesh. We call that flesh the Son of God because He was born. He was born in Bethlehem, that was the beginning of the Son of God. The Bible not once says that the Son of God is eternal. Jesus is Jehovah manifest in the flesh.
1 Tim 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
It was Jehovah God of the Old Testament that came in flesh.
Matt 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Who was that baby in the manger? God with us!
Who was that one that raised the dead? God with us!
Who was that one that multipled the fish and loaves? God with us!
Who was that one that forgave sins? God with us!
Who was that one that died on a cross? God with us!
Stay with your Roman Catholic teaching if you want to but God is requiring of you TRUTH!
Visit www.theworldofpentecost.net
Sure, if you are trinitarian, you are disagreeing with me. The only part you have to agree with me on is that the Jews of today do NOT believe that God is a trinity. My question for you is, if God is a trinity (three persons) than when did the Jews stop believing that God was three persons and adopt the idea that God is one and only one?
The Jews still believe what they have always believed, including the Apostles and Prophets of old, that God is ONE. God is one in number, one in person.
Deut 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Zech 14:9
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Eph 4:5
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
The Bible does NOT say that God is three persons, not once. Misunderstand it, misconstrue it as you will. The Jews are correct that God is one and not three persons.
Where the Jews and trinitarians are wrong is that the one God of the Bible came in flesh. He did not send a different person to die for us. It was He himself that came in flesh. We call that flesh the Son of God because He was born. He was born in Bethlehem, that was the beginning of the Son of God. The Bible not once says that the Son of God is eternal. Jesus is Jehovah manifest in the flesh.
1 Tim 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
It was Jehovah God of the Old Testament that came in flesh.
Matt 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Who was that baby in the manger? God with us!
Who was that one that raised the dead? God with us!
Who was that one that multipled the fish and loaves? God with us!
Who was that one that forgave sins? God with us!
Who was that one that died on a cross? God with us!
Stay with your Roman Catholic teaching if you want to but God is requiring of you TRUTH!
Visit www.theworldofpentecost.net
i asked a jewish rabi the same question.a few years ago,was god a trinity.he told me,i donot no what you are talking about.
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Pssst. Find one instance prior to the ascension of Christ where someone knew His kingdom would be spiritual instead of political.
When you can't, will you then assert that Christ's kingdom was political until the disciples figured it out, and then it instantly became spiritual?
What you're doing in your post is called an "improper appeal to authority," i.e., someone in authority or has the inside track doesn't believe or know something, therefore it's not true.
The promise of Jesus was that the disciples would be "led" into all truth by the Holy Spirit- not that it would be an instantaneous journey.
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Please post this (and lots more!) on joelstrumpet.com at--
http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=2380
I was banned this morning. There is a poster named Michael K who is pushing a book called The Jewish Trinity, and this post would be very good.
With understanding that you are very busy, I hoped in sending theis link (with postings) to you that you might join Jim L (the other Oneness contributor whom I do not know personally) at the link. They are having trouble refuting Oneness doctrine so I was banned after being branded as being under the same “demonic” control as Islam!
There is a man named “Mishael” (a non-Catholic who is trinitarian) who is asking some pertinent questions from what I am hoping is a hungry heart to know more about the Dual Nature of Christ.
Thank you for considering joining this. I was banned after the messages had grown to the longest discussion they have ever had if I understood correctly.
Pam
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The people who defend the trinity still cannot explain even from the standpoint of a gentile the trinitarian characteristics.
Lets make it simple I agree the Jews have never ever heard of a Trinity at the time of Paul. People say, hey they don't believe so they don't know. They do not believer the Messiah has already come lets get that right, but they still have the core belief which is the first and great commandment which has not changed, "Hear O' Israel the Lord our God is One Lord" - Deut 6:4.
Read the verse before it though where Moses say they believe this it will be well with them if they keep the commandment. God has never hid that he is one, then all the sudden the Holy Ghost comes and he reveals, "Oh by the way I have two other attributes that are me, but they are heirs with me, but I'm still one".
Person - defined as a human body, and embodiment, a person human being.
So if that is defined as so put by webster dictionary and others then its simple. God never had a body or a form, so calling him in three persons, or three in one God you are dividing him then trying to reconstruct him when he says in the beginning that he is one. There are Jews who have bought into the trinitarian thinking, how? Because they are human just like you and me and prone to making mistakes.
I have had many talks with trinitarians and all of them now understand dividing God even an inch you give the possibility and probability to Idol Worship. God has never had a form, he had many theophanies but no permanent form until Jesus was Born.
Jesus is the image of the "Invisible GOD". Read Hebrews where it speaks as God calling Jesus GOD, so it seems as two talking but it was GOD making a reference to the beginning of the sonship. How is one a son also unless he's born? One is a son by birth as like Adam he was born of the Earth, the dirt and GOD gave him life. Jesus was Born of divine birth but that body was born of a woman therefore by the body he was a son.
The prophecy the Jews understand that the Messiah or Messianica would be GOD One GOD Jehovah or Yahweh GOD manifest in the form of man. It is simple, GOD put on a body where do I get that?
Col 2:9 "For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily".
As in GOD had a form and it was the body of JESUS CHRIST.
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