ONENESS AND TRINITARIAN DEBATE
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Cloistered Nuns of the Church of Rome: A story of abuse.
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To Whom Did Jesus Pray? / Why The Thief on The Cross Did Not Need to be Baptized
If Jesus is God, then why did he pray and whom did he pray to?
How was the thief on the cross next to Jesus saved seeing he was not baptized? There is a Biblical answer. He was saved without being baptized but you cannot be saved without the correct water baptism!
Matthew 28:19 Explained
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David Bernard Oneness Debate Video
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New Birth and Water Baptism
New Birth & water Baptism
What the scripture will prove in this study is that the new birth includes water and Spirit. Repentance alone, is NOT the new birth. Believing by itself, is NOT the new birth.
“born of water” is baptism by immersion with the name of Jesus Christ invoked.
“born of Spirit” is when one receives the gift of the Holy Ghost evidenced by tongues.
John 3:5
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
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Three or One?
Let us take a look at a couple subjects:
- How many persons sit on throne of God
- Who gave who to die on the cross
I will first address the scriptures regarding the throne of God. Here are a couple questions that we need to consider regarding God's throne. Where is the throne? What is the throne of God?
The Throne of God
Isa 66:1
66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
Do you believe the Bible or the theory of man? The theory of man says that God sits on some physical throne. If that is true how then is God omnipresent? God cannot be contained in a box, house, Church or anywhere else. God is everywhere! Look at the verse. what does it say?
How does a God that is everywhere sit down? How does a God that is everywhere have someone sit next to Him? If God is everywhere as the verse indicates then He fills all space! If God is not everywhere then he evidently is millions of miles from here sitting on a chair (throne) in Heaven.
The verse says that Heaven is God's throne. What is Heaven? The Hebrew says: OT:8064 shamayim (shaw-mah'-yim); dual of an unused singular shameh (shaw-meh'); from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, as well as to the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve):
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
The throne of God is not a chair. The throne of God is the sky. This is telling us of the bigness of God, the largeness of God, His omnipresence. God is everywhere. Again, how can God be everywhere and then at the same time need a chair to sit on and be confined to that chair?
Num 23:19
19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,
If God were a man like the verse says he is not than He would need to sit down.
John 4:24
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
God is a Spirit and He as a omnipresent Spirit does not need to sit. The Sky, atmosphere etc. is His throne. He is everywhere!
Let us examine a couple more verses.
Rev 3:21
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Rev 4:2
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
We must understand that the Bible and especially the book of Revelation speaks in parables and typology. Here is a honest question. Why does 3:21 refer to two on the throne but in 4:2 we see only one on the throne? In 3:21 why is the Holy Spirit the "3rd person of the Trinity" left out? Where is he? Why, in all of the verses in the Bible regarding the throne, do we not see the Holy Spirit mentioned? Is he throneless? If John 4:24 says that God is a Spirit and then you believe that the Holy Spirit is a spirit then you must also believe that God is two spirits.
God is one Spirit, not two. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
John 4:24 God is a Spirit...
Rev. 3:21 proves the oneness of God in that it shows how that the Spirit of God and the Son of God are one in the same. God was manifest in the flesh, 1 Tim. 3:16. God the Word was made flesh John 1:14. God himself came to earth as a man.
When John saw the throne of God, when God was revealed to him in all his glory and Kingship he saw only ONE. Only one was on the throne. God is one in number and has has three manifestations, namely the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. In all of human history there has never been a earthly King that shared his throne with another. This analogy that the scripture gives us is not for us to count "persons" but to see the Kingship of God and to see who the King of Kings really is, the Lord Jesus Christ!
The fact is, Jesus Christ sits on the throne alone as God! See Isa 44:24 24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
More scripture proving thst Jesus is the King of Kings...
1 Tim 6:15
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
Rev 17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Rev 19:16
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Who Gave Who to Die on the Cross?
Did the first person give the second person to die in capital punishment or did God himself love His creation so much that He himself took on the nature of flesh and came to earth as the Messiah?
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1 John 3:16
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
The verse in John says that God gave His son but in 1 John it says that God gave himself. Which is it? Who came to die? Did God die? Did His son die?
When we understand that God is a Spirit and that He came in flesh helps us understand the verses. God did not die. The Son of God died. The manifestation of God died. The flesh of God died. There is a difference between the flesh and spirit. God has a Spirit nature and a flesh nature. Everyone that is born again also has a Spirit nature and was born with a human nature.
God is a Spirit but added a human nature when he came in flesh. Not another person but simply a revealing of God in human flesh!
1 Tim 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
The fact is that God himself came in flesh and died on a tree for our sins. It was not another person but simply God loving His own creation enough to come Himself and die!
God is one in number. He said it.
Isa 43:10-11
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa 43:14-15
14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships.
15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
Isa 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isa 44:8
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isa 45:4-5
4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isa 45:18
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isa 45:21-22
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Jesus Christ the manifestation of God is the ONE true God!
1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Believing is NOT Enough!
Believing Alone is NOT Enough!
This easy believism is not enough to get you to Heaven. Believing alone does not save you. You must be born again. “Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT being born again. Believing is the prerequisite for being born again. Jesus taught how to be born again. The Apostles taught how to be born again. This “Roman Road” salvation doesn’t get you much farther than what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. Salvation did not begin in Rome. The Church does NOT have its roots in Rome!
This most popular phrase regarding getting saved is NOT found in the Bible
“Accept the Lord as your personal Savior”
This is a man made term to describe a salvation experience without the new birth. Sure, those that use it say they are born again if asked. The Christian Church world is getting farther and farther from true Biblical ideals, acts, lifestyle, standards and salvation!
To be saved you must be born again as Jesus said in John 3:3
John 3:3
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. KJV
How does one get born again? Does he jump straight to John 3:16? The answer is Yes! Before you can be born again you must believe on the son of God.
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. KJV
Now any good student knows you cannot take one statement or one verse in the Bible and make a doctrine. That is how false doctrines begin.
Believing within its self is not salvation but you must be born again. Believing brings us to Christ. Believing is synonymous with repentance. If one truly believes he will repent of his sin. Repentance alone is not enough to get you to Heaven.
In a moment I will tell you about the man in the Bible that was given the keys to Heaven’s gate.
Let us finish what Jesus said about being born again. Look at John 3:5.
John 3:5
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. KJV
Jesus talked about being “born of water and the Spirit”. In verse three He said “born again” and in verse five He said “born of water and the Spirit”. These are synonymous terms. They both mean exactly the same thing. In studying the Apostles in Acts we find they taught this same thing. They taught being born again of the water and the Spirit.
What is this “water and Spirit” Jesus was talking about? Jesus said you cannot go to Heaven without it! If you cannot go to Heaven without it than we had better understand it and make sure we have it!
Notice the small “w” in water and the capital “S” in Spirit. The water is h2o. It is water baptism by submersion. The Greek word for baptism is “baptizo” which means to submerge. These so called baptisms of sprinkling and pouring water are not baptisms. You must be submerged in water.
God used an earthly element and a Heavenly element for the new birth. The “Spirit” is the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost as the New Testament usually refers to it as. You must receive the Holy Ghost to be born again. Jesus said you must be born of the “Spirit” to go to Heaven. We find in Acts how that individuals and groups of people were being baptized and receiving the Holy Ghost experience.
You might ask “how then was the thief on the cross saved”? That is a good question. This born again experience did not begin until the New Testament era. The Old Testament era ended when Jesus died on the cross. When He died the veil of the Temple was torn in two pieces. This indicates the end of all sacrifices. Jesus was the final sacrifice. The Old Covenant of salvation ended by Jesus’ death and His resurrection began a new covenant dispensation of which we are in until the second coming of the Lord.
The thief on the cross was promised salvation in Old Testament era! He did not have to be baptized. He did not have to receive the Holy Ghost. He got saved before the requirement of the new birth was sealed. Jesus spoke of the new birth to Nicodemus in John but it was not administered until Acts when the man with the “Keys” began preaching it.
Jesus did not give Nicodemus a new way to be saved “during” the old covenant. The new covenant was right in front of them and Jesus was preparing Nicodemus for it. Nicodemus’ hunger allowed him to see into the new covenant salvation by Jesus himself revealing it to him. No one in the Gospels was born again. It was not the way to get to Heaven. The old covenant of Moses was still required in everything. When Jesus healed a leper He told him in Matthew “go show yourself to the priest”. This proves again that the four Gospels were Old Testament era. The new birth was not required until after Jesus death when the “man with the keys” preached it.
Here is when Jesus promised the “Keys” of Heaven to Peter.
Matt 16:18-19
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. KJV
Now let us look at the first sermon preached in new covenant era which is Acts. We see here that this first sermon was preached by the man that had the keys to Heaven. Peter knew how to get to Heaven. Peter knew how to get saved.
Acts 2:37-38
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. KJV
We find here about being born of water and the Spirit. When you are baptized you must be baptized as Peter said in the savior’s name. You must be baptized in Jesus name. When you receive the Holy Ghost as Peter said you will speak in tongues. You will see this happening in its beginning in Acts 2:1-4. Speaking in tongues is the evidence and sign of being born of the Spirit.
Here is a list of more new covenant proof found in the New Testament regarding being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost with tongues.
Acts 8:12-17
12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. KJV
Acts 10:44-48
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. KJV
Acts 19:1-7
19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve. KJV
The Bible says the devils believe and tremble and they are not saved. You also need to go farther than believing. Be born again of the water and the Spirit.
Do like the man with the keys to Heaven said.
1. Repent
2. Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins
3. Receive the promised gift of the Holy Ghost
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